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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:48 am

As my old coat weighed a tonne thanks to all the linings in it and having the pleats double the size they should have been, I've had a new one made so I don't die of exhaustion when wearing it! I've also upgraded the buttonholes to embroidered ones of the same colour as the originals. Of course thanks to SF Tailoring for actually making it and putting up with all my picky alterations the whole way through the process!
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Post  Mojo Turbo Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:50 am

so beautiful. I am in the process of having my coat tailored as well. How do you keep the cuffs up? Are they stitched at all?
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:19 am

There's one holding stitch that goes through them. Although they're also stitched on at the button hole. From the stills I've seen I think one cuff has the holding stitch and the other doesn't. Although it probably just happened and never got fixed during filming!
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Post  Jinkxed Jack Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:41 am

Dang, I can't imagine how many doubloons that cost ya. Well, I can imagine but I'd rather not...yet I'm still curious to know lol. Probably waaaaaaay out of my budget, but maybe someday it won't be.

*sigh*
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:46 am

Jinkxed Jack wrote:Dang, I can't imagine how many doubloons that cost ya. Well, I can imagine but I'd rather not...yet I'm still curious to know lol. Probably waaaaaaay out of my budget, but maybe someday it won't be.

*sigh*

A lot... but I still think it's only my third biggest Jack investment behind the teeth and the wig! On the plus side it *sounds* less in good old British Doubloons compared to your US pieces of eight.
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:29 am

And with a bit of breaking down.

The belts aren't on the stand as they don't fit. The stand is designed for a slightly larger gentleman than me I think!

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Post  adenry Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:36 am

Wow, it looks amazing. Is it Ebony? Are you going to weather it now? I would hesitate making holes in that beauty... but I would probably do it in the end.
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:59 am

adenry wrote:Wow, it looks amazing. Is it Ebony? Are you going to weather it now? I would hesitate making holes in that beauty... but I would probably do it in the end.

Yeah - it's the original fabric from LS, although I've just dyed some other stuff I got and it's probably much nearer the broken down stuff than the Ebony ever was!

I'll do some holes but then coat it in some sort of glue so it doesn't fray any further.
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Post  BroadSword Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Button It wrote:
adenry wrote:Wow, it looks amazing. Is it Ebony? Are you going to weather it now? I would hesitate making holes in that beauty... but I would probably do it in the end.

Yeah - it's the original fabric from LS, although I've just dyed some other stuff I got and it's probably much nearer the broken down stuff than the Ebony ever was!

I'll do some holes but then coat it in some sort of glue so it doesn't fray any further.

That's good to hear. I was curious how that material turned out, assuming it's the stuff you got from me.
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Post  liarr Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:38 pm

amazing. how tight are the arms? bicep area? I have problems there...
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:44 pm

liarr wrote:amazing. how tight are the arms? bicep area? I have problems there...

It was tailored to fit my arms, so it's pretty perfect. Jack's coat is fairly fitted in that area. I just have to make sure I don't work out now!
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Post  liarr Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:40 pm

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liarr wrote:amazing. how tight are the arms? bicep area? I have problems there...

It was tailored to fit my arms, so it's pretty perfect. Jack's coat is fairly fitted in that area. I just have to make sure I don't work out now!


lol, thats my problem. i hulked out of my costumebase after i altered it. jack isnt supposed to have lats.
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Post  Capn_Jack_Savvy Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Nicely done. Unfortunately most of the other coat makers out there are still using the ole frock coat template that has tapered arms. Jack's frock coat NEVER had tapered arms so it is sad to see some still being produced that way..... Sad
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Post  Button It Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:10 pm

Capn_Jack_Savvy wrote:Nicely done. Unfortunately most of the other coat makers out there are still using the ole frock coat template that has tapered arms. Jack's frock coat NEVER had tapered arms so it is sad to see some still being produced that way..... Sad

Well they have to taper slightly as they flair out to the depth of the whole cuff where they join, unless of course we're talking cross purposes?
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Post  liarr Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:01 pm

Capn_Jack_Savvy wrote:Nicely done. Unfortunately most of the other coat makers out there are still using the ole frock coat template that has tapered arms. Jack's frock coat NEVER had tapered arms so it is sad to see some still being produced that way..... Sad

do you have a visual example? I'm not sure what you're referring to
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Post  Captain McCool Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:04 am

Ditto... because I've also got some screen caps that clearly show a shape and indeed a flare to the arms down towards the cuffs. But maybe that's not what you're talking about, not sure. At any rate, this is a GORGEOUS coat. Good lord. I really, really, really wish I could afford her work, because it is, in my opinion, second to NONE. This looks downright amazing.
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Post  pinder91 Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:40 pm

Wow that is truly remarkable!!! Now I have something to model my own after when the time comes.
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Post  SFTailoring Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:26 pm

Captain McCool wrote:Ditto... because I've also got some screen caps that clearly show a shape and indeed a flare to the arms down towards the cuffs. But maybe that's not what you're talking about, not sure. At any rate, this is a GORGEOUS coat. Good lord. I really, really, really wish I could afford her work, because it is, in my opinion, second to NONE. This looks downright amazing.

Thank you Smile Thanks to all! Its nice to feel appreciated and to know all my hard work is paying off!! xxx Razz
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Post  Button It Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:13 am

Even though this strictly isn't frock coat related, I shot a couple of videos before Christmas so you should be able to see the whole costume now in 3 dimensions... of sort (well 2d + movement) There's a good shot of me walking away from camera so you get a good view of how the coat swings here.


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Post  Mojo Turbo Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:23 am

wow - thanks
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Post  pinder91 Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:07 pm

Wow. Very cool, Simon. The wardrobe is looking as fantastic as ever! Treasure
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Post  Button It Fri May 04, 2012 7:11 pm

And here are a couple of the frock coat in action

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Post  Captain Jack Sparrow 478 Sat May 05, 2012 9:47 pm

Anyone know if it is humanly possible to get ebony raffia from anywhere?

I really would prefer a coat made of the real deal fabric. I have been searching far and wide.

Cheers all! Wink

P.s. Great shots Simon as always! You the man! Laughing
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Post  jacksadventures Sun May 06, 2012 12:16 am

I have 3 pr 4 yards of it
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Post  Captain Jack Sparrow 478 Sun May 06, 2012 1:51 am

PM sent mate. Wink
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